i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.
i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.
i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.
@Cofty,
I agree with what you are saying, but strictly speaking you're wrong anyway
Centuries before the Bible was written people were helped by their gods just as rebelfighter was helped by her god.
And even now there are countries full of people who have no clue about the Bible but believe in all kinds of gods.
So everyone can claim anything about any God...with or without Bible or religion. It just doesn't make sense.
i was asked to view the video “dear believer, why do you believe?” i said i would and i would publish my comments about it.
so here are my comments.
after my post, i hope other believers will post theirs comments about it.
Where did you get this belief from?
You bought it at the Religion shop like everyone else !
Exactly my idea. Some Believers try to say atheists confuse religion and faith in God.
I sat that at least every Christian does as well.
The Bible is a product or result of religion, not a source of religion. Hence every Bible based belief is from religion, not from God.
Without religious writings and religious tales, much less people would belief in god(s), and nobody would belief in a God called Jahweh who sent his son Jesus to die for our sins.
So, those who believe in non-personal gods might be true god-believers...all others think they have a direct line with gods but are really just following ideas coming from one religion or another.
The only people confused about the (non) separateness between God and religion are believers...
what is “the end of the world”?the phrase “the end of the world,” which appears in many bible translations, can also be rendered as “the conclusion of the system of things,” or “the close of the age.” (matthew 24:3;english standard version) it refers, not to the destruction of the earth or of all humanity, but to the end of the framework of human society.—1 john 2:17.. conveniently leaving out that according to current numbers and doctrine, 8.000.000 people will survive at max.. technically is not a destruction of all humanity....but it comes so close it deserves to be mentioned.. of course it isn't mentioned, because that would sound so extreme, cultish and unkind.
we wouldn't want people to get the right ideas about jw.organization now, would we?.
What is “the end of the world”?
The phrase “the end of the world,” which appears in many Bible translations, can also be rendered as “the conclusion of the system of things,” or “the close of the age.” (Matthew 24:3;English Standard Version) It refers, not to the destruction of the earth or of all humanity, but to the end of the framework of human society.—1 John 2:17.
Conveniently leaving out that according to current numbers and doctrine, 8.000.000 people will survive at max.
Technically is not a destruction of all humanity....but it comes so close it deserves to be mentioned.
Of course it isn't mentioned, because that would sound so extreme, cultish and unkind. We wouldn't want people to get the right ideas about JW.organization now, would we?
bye... bye.... no more new printing presses for jw.org... the growth is so tremendous (irony...).. all printing work in europe will be arrange in the next month only in selters (germany), but no renovation or upgrading in printing presses is expected... it will be a full outsourcing :).
a worldly company axel s******* will be used.
this company is known to be printing bild newspaper... the interesting part of it is the logistics will be as well outsourced.
@Berrygerry...
Interesting question!
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-no5-2016-september/david-versus-goliath-real/.
the article ends with this:.
there is no real basis for doubting the truthfulness of this historical account.
Witness my funny
bye... bye.... no more new printing presses for jw.org... the growth is so tremendous (irony...).. all printing work in europe will be arrange in the next month only in selters (germany), but no renovation or upgrading in printing presses is expected... it will be a full outsourcing :).
a worldly company axel s******* will be used.
this company is known to be printing bild newspaper... the interesting part of it is the logistics will be as well outsourced.
Yes, very smart business wise, from a human point of view. So after 120 years Jesus finds out worldly people are smart after all?
hello forum.
i started this topic because i had been thinking recently about a story that i had heard many times in different congregations over the years.
kind of a jw urban legend if you will.
Maybe you shouldn't pray while driving. Keep your eyes on the road ;-)
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-no5-2016-september/david-versus-goliath-real/.
the article ends with this:.
there is no real basis for doubting the truthfulness of this historical account.
Is Iron Man real?
1) Exoskeleton and experimental jet packs exist, so the technology is hardly impossible.
2) Captain America spoke about Iron Man. He considered him real.
3) The USA, where Iron Man lives and works, is a real country! Many tourists have seen it's astonishing beauty while they visited the places where Iron Man fought his battles.
There is no good reason to doubt that Iron Man is more than just a story.
Yup. Seems legit!
sometimes it's hard to know if our own experience of jws was typical and what features were peculiar to our own area or the individual jws we knew personally.
i was wondering if others experienced this among jws:.
a few times on the ministry, when we were working wealthy areas with large houses, some brothers and sisters would make the comment that they look forward to taking ownership of one of these big houses after armageddon, when the worldly people have vacated them.
I've heard and made statements like that while in FS. But never with the meaning 'I hope the people living in this specific house die in Armageddon, because I want this house'. It was always conveying the meaning of 'After Armageddon I'd like to have a house like this in an area like this'.
Thoughtless and selfish, yes. Intentionally cruel...not so much.
well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.
someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.
i just feel sad for my daughter.
As far as how the situation affects your wife, I'd suggest being the kindest, most loving husband and father that you can be. Her family will smear you as a "mentally diseased apostate" who has aligned himself with the Devil. Prove the opposite.
Yes. This.
